Nasrallah managed to spook own supporters

Contrary to what Hizbullah would like you to believe, the Shia community in Lebanon is not ready for another "divine" war. Nasrallah's "open war" declaration prompted many Shias to say khalas, that's enough!

Now Lebanon's Hanin Ghaddar interviewed many Shias who showed no enthusiasm whatsoever towards the open war declaration. While this is no scientific poll, it does show that many Lebanese Shias no longer think that the "dignity" promised by Hizbullah can put food on their tables or secure a decent future for their children.

For many Shia, another declaration of war is an inescapable fate, albeit a distressing one. Sawsan, a school teacher from Nabatiyeh, was not surprised when she heard Nasrallah’s speech. “They have always been a confrontational party, and his tone doesn’t mean that they want another war,” she said.

“Of course we [the Shia] know that we cannot eliminate Israel from existence and that, to score a victory, we will have to lose a lot. But we cannot expect a softer tone from Hezbollah after they lose such a significant leader like Mugniyah,” she added. “We are always paying the price for their political agendas. Khalas! That’s enough.”

While most Shia derive a sincere sense of pride from Hezbollah’s resistance, and especially the “divine victory” of July 2006; the memory of that war is still painful.

Walid, a Shia from Dahiyeh, told NOW Lebanon, “Nasrallah is my hero, and I believe he has given us [the Shia] pride; however, when he talked about an open war in his last speech, it didn’t make sense.” Walid said that despite the “divine victory” brought by Hezbollah, he believes that most Shia would prefer not to go through it again. “We are still suffering from the consequences of [the July War] and believe me, no one would want to relive that bitter experience,” he said.

Samir, a Shia from Tyre, said, “I feel we have just won a war against Israel, and we don’t need to go through another one to assert our strength. It’s a dangerous game, and Hezbollah might not win the next one and that would lead to its downfall.”

Samir, who said he has been displaced many times, explained that although he prefers to live with “dignity,” he also knows that dignity doesn’t put food on the table. “It is my responsibility as a father to provide a secure and decent future for my children in a more or less stable environment.”

One hopes that this attitude infects all Lebanese Shias, many of whom found themselves isolated from the rest of the country because of Hizbullah's obstructionist policies.

This is a common dilemma for the Lebanese Shia. The Shia community in Lebanon has long felt treated as second-class citizens, and the resistance is seen by many as something that has brought them a unique degree of pride and dignity. Moreover, many have been told by their religious and political leaders that they need to support the leadership of the Islamic resistance in order to avoid humiliation.

However, Mohammad Ali Moukalled, a professor of political science at the Lebanese University, argued that the militant stance of Hezbollah and its political practice have only put the Shia back in isolation.

Mona Fayad, a professor of sociology at the Lebanese University who is also Shia, told NOW Lebanon that Lebanon is the only Arab country where Shia are considered a main component within the society and enjoy the same rights as other Lebanese. “Hezbollah is harming the Shia community by leading it toward more isolation, adding to the hostility toward them,” she said.

Read it in full here.

Comments

[danny]

Today's speech was designed to "despook" them. I saw it more as an effort to band aid his outrageous outburst of last week! Also, as we have discussed, it shows his losing of his grip...The only way he can try to keep his "cause" together is by trying to find someone who wants to fight him...

[danny]

To Quote Hassan from todays rant:

اقتراحي الأول : أدعوهم لإقامة تظاهرتين بدون استحضار

الشهداء و لنرى من يجمع أكثر بين المعارضة و الموالاة

What a fxxxn baby!! Is this the leader the orangebutts follow with their village idiot? Trying to see whose's is bigger. What a statesman this sayyed!!

[Meghwar]

Nasrallah Speech at Moughniyeh Memorial Rally
5:01 Nasrallah said the International Tribunal's prosecutor is in Meerab and its judge is in Clemenceau.
5:00 Nasrallah told the Israelis "your army would be destroyed in south Lebanon and Israel would be without an army."
4:57 Nasrallah, addressing the Israelis, said: Your army would collapse at the feet of Imad Mughniyeh. I swear that we would fight you like you never experienced. Your army would be detsoyed in south Lebanon."
4:56 "We are ready to achieve victory and no one can protect all of Israel from our rockets,"Nasrallah declared.
4:55 Nasrallah said the Israeli air force is not capable of winning a war, "they have no alternative but launching an overland offensive.
4:53 The July war was aimed at finishing us off but it failed, Nasrallah said.
4:52 Nasrallah said the majority tells its followers that Israel would finish off Hizbullah.
4:50 Nasrallah also proposed a comparison between the Feb. 14 Rally and the Ashoura March in south Beirut to find out which rally had bigger popular participation.
4:45 Nasrallah proposed a competition between two demonstrations by the majority and opposition to show which side enjoys more popularity.
4:43 Nasrallah said the majority is waiting for an Israeli war to finish off Hizbullah "that is why they are not prepared to make concessions and reject compromises."

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Seems the man lost it, he is going bezerk by the speech!

The most hilarious is this :"Nasrallah proposed a competition between two demonstrations by the majority and opposition to show which side enjoys more popularity." Huh ?????? !!!!! Come again ???
Competition ??
Yup… and they are insulted when we call them SHEEPLE …go figure ….

A total insane a$$hole ! Showing us his archaic backwardness and his ineptitude and uselessness except when it comes to destroying Lebanon.

This man should be taken from his neck ( after finishing his own self-incriminating speech ) to the nearest court and put to trial for high treason against his country ( or is it ? )

Enough !!! Saniora and Suleiman either you do something about this madman or back away and let others do it…enough BS Already!!!!!!!!!!

[Ex-Aounist]

Pathetic !!!!! Hassin asking to measure crowds LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL

the man is frantic and desperate indeed!
For someone who wants to wipe out israel and all that 40.000 missiles and “suppositories” braying, he sure has time to count his sheep....le
helps with the insomnia or something LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

Seriously now,
hassin wants to scare the israeli public ( the usual psychological war ) with his speech today and totally divert attention from the consequences of Mughniyeh assassination and those behind it on hizb itself.

He knows quite well he can't push to a confrontation if the internal lebanese front isn't backing him and it aint. He's stuck, shiaa don't want another war ( hanin ghaddar's article on now lebanon and AK comments), very instructive. hassin failed and lame attempt at gathering momentum with this "pride and faith" speech means he's tightening the ranks from whithin.
Mughinieh was "disposed of" with the help of syrian intel agencies who leaked his whereabouts to the israelis or americans. This couldn’t have been anything BUT AN INSIDE JOB! No amount of yelling and spitting, threatening or cursing on national TV will ever cover this fact, and the fact that hizb is feeling the heat ....of the end....not of Israel that is !

[Amir in Tel Aviv]

Hassan is right.! He knows that the coming war will
be fought ( again ) on a Lebanese soil.

But he's damn wrong. He thinks that the IDF will be as merciful as in July 2006.
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[The Perpetual Refugee]

The Shia community, if we are to look at it as such, wasn't ready for the first 'divine' victory, let alone another.

A Lebanese Shia is no different than a Lebanese Maronite, Sunni or Druze. Family, prosperity, health all take precident.

It doesn't help that we have a weak government that historically did not pay enough (or any) attention to a large (huge) segment of its own population.

[danny]

Perpetual Refugee,
"It doesn't help that we have a weak government that historically did not pay enough (or any) attention to a large (huge) segment of its own population"

I assume you are referring to Shias..

You are correct that the government sin Lebanon only paid attention to (war)lords as is in any feudal society. A lot of Lebanon is neglected, from the North to the South. People in Akkar are worse of any in the South and yet they are not Shias...

people have to understand that, Kamal Asaad was one of the main reasons the South stayed neglected...Of course that was followed by Iztaz Berri who has been using the money earmarked for the South's development into buying gas stations in Michigan...

All these points are moot!
Today's joke of the day:

Hassan Nassrallah...Yalla let's see which one is bigger...and they said size doesn't matter!!

[Ex-Aounist]

Perpetual Refugee, Danny,

Blaming it on the past ??? you are trying to tell me that hassin and his party are not corrupt????

drug trafficking, arms smuggling, car theft, extortion, not paying electricity bills for years, having their own little government, own telephone service, kidnapping and killing people, attacking army, abducting ISF and taking their arms….. last by no means the least declaring their wars..is that corruption or is there a new definition of corruption that I am unaware of ?????

do you know why the telecommunication ministry is messed up????? its because our big brother bashar and his friends were getting around 20 million a month from the cell phone companies during the occupation........the electricity was run since the 1990 by shiaas except for one minister the late hobeika , and we all know that the biggest corruption file is in this precise File.( not mention TMA, TAWABE3, Casino du Liban black-box, Tele - Liban and istiz berri's famous quote : biwazfo wahad bwazef 2 " etc etc etc...) Half if not the 3/4 of our debts are in SYRIA, the rest is stolen by those who claim being PURE ( but for iranian money ...)

And aoun is not getting iranian "halal" money??? aoun didnt steel money when he left with his tail between his legs??????? ( we all know his wife's smuggling cash money in her purse with abou jamra's wife as well )

What about the "Mahroumine" in Metn and kesserwan ? has anyone taken a stroll in that neglected part of the country ??
many in march 14 and March 8 are corrupt, so give me a break about shiaa mahroumine ...ALL LEBANESE ARE MAHROUMINE, more than shiaa, but they do not riot about electricity for which THEY DO PAY their bills!

All of Lebanon is in decrepitude and on the verge of collapse...and thanks to Mr. "Divine victory" soon we will conduct our wars with sticks, clubs and slingshots!

And still this Retard wants to compete and brag about his MAHROUMINE SHEEPLE.

[Ex-Aounist]

Heyyy!! I forgot the best part ...the DOWN TOWN CIRCUS which resulted in more than 400 establishments bankruptcy and more than 3000 employees,given the sack, you can add them to the Mahroumine List and I can guarantee you they belong to these 18 bloody darn sects of Lebanon .

GIVE ME A BREAK !

[Ex-Aounist]

The hizib made sure the shia stay poor and dependent on them for money, education hospitization and all social needs.. this is why they kept the governement from going to the south and making it better, let me see the Gov trying to take the place of "JIHAD EL BENA" in renovating Dahieh ...Hizb won't accept it, stil they say Gov is not helping shiaa build ...oh no they want to take the money to pay it for those who are with hizb...go down to the south and see the truth on the ground...those who are not with hizb did not get a DIME....for the rest sandouk el jnoub and Istiz berri took "el beyda wel teksheera" !

[Meghwar]

جعجع يدعو نصرالله لمناظرة تلفزيونية: مدعي عام المحكمة الدولية يبقى أفضل من "عضّومكم"

فقال: "كنت اعتقد بأن المناسبة جَلَل، لكن للأسف كان السيد حسن منفعلاً ومتوتراً واستعمل هذه المناسبة لمهاجمة الآخرين وبدل ان نبقى كلٌ يخاطب جمهوره لتبيان الخيط الابيض من الاسود أدعوك يا سيد لمناظرة تلفزيونية ولو غير مباشرة ولنترك اللبنانيين والعرب والعالم بأجمعه يحكم."

وتابع جعجع: "جريمة بحق اخواننا اللبنانيين ان ندفعهم نحو الطريق الخطأ، لأن القرار الحر الفعلي هو قبل كل شيء قرار حر من كل انفعال وردود فعل آنية كانت أم تاريخية عميقة الجذور".

واعتبر أن الحر حرٌ مما في نفسه قبل ان يكون حراً من الآخرين، ومهما كان من أمرٍ يا سيد، فمدعي عام المحكمة الدولية يبقى أفضل من "عضّومكم".

أضاف جعجع: "سلاح الكلمة الحق والعمل الدؤوب والمنطق والسياسة اقوى بما لا يقاس من سلاح العنف".

For Full article:
http://www.lebanese-forces.com/details.asp?newsid=5649

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Shou hassoun ??? Do you accept ?

[danny]

I never said that the past is to be blamed. On the contrary, I mentioned that the past and current "handouts" is based on the feudal "hessa"...not based on equitable distribution of wealth. One might argue that this kind of things happen in USA & Canada, be that in pork barrell politics etc.
Let's stay focused and not babble. I just read Mustapha's post at Beirutsprings. Quite astute response from Geagea to Hassoun's rant! "Let's have a public debate on issues"! Now that is civilized! It seems to me thae DSG is the only "leader" who is making sense nowadays.

Romeo...Buzz off again!

[Bad Vilbel]

I just hope that more and more "followers" (be them Shia or Orangites, or any other party for that matter) start thinking more about jobs, prosperity, education and health, and less about "honor" and "war" and all that. I'm guessing though, that the poll in question, is not that representative. There's something about the Lebanese mentality that lends itself so well to being a sheeple and getting gung-ho about rhetoric and empty slogans.

[e]

Can someone please explain what Nasrallah means with:
"International Tribunal's prosecutor is in Meerab and its judge is in Clemenceau"

I am not sure I get it.
thanks.

[Ex-Aounist]

Danny,
I understand bro... maybe I haven't expressed myself correctly... but I was just fed up with the "mahroumine" refrain and blaming it all on the Gov, and those Lebanese mahroumine ???? where are they ? Following the likes of hassin...hence no complaining is allowed since it is “ Fada essayed” let them shut the F...up !

Quote:
"Let's have a public debate on issues"! Now that is civilized! It seems to me thae DSG is the only "leader" who is making sense nowadays.

He is , and believe me, am no fan of DSG but I admit he is the only politician forcing me to respect him !!

LOL, POLITELY, could you pls REGURGITATE in your own blog ???! Or in other words F...OFF !

[Umm K.]

AK--Lover is back--please get rid of the punk.

[Meghwar]

E,
As far as I can TRY to understand a madman like nassnass, I can tell you that he attacked the international tribunal, saying its prosecutor is based in Meerab and judge in Clemenceau street.
He was referring to Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea and Progressive Socialist Party leader Walid Jumblat, respectively, meaning that the IT is POLITICIZED....and not to be trusted !

1- Samir Geagea was in prison for 11 years because of the syrians (many fabricated files among others Seydet Ennajet church explosion...)

2- Jumblat's Father was assassinated by the syrians...

So Nassnass was trying to refute the fact that syrians are murderers implying that SG and WJ just want to revenge themselves from Assads' despite the latter "innocence" !!!

[Bad Vilbel]

Who or what is "DSG"?

[e]

Meghwar,
Thanks.

[Bad Vilbel]

I must also agree with the above sentiment: I am tired of hearing about "Mahroumine".

I do not deny (and i think no one in their right mind would deny) that the Shia in the South were not really looked after by the government (pre-civil war era). And the same can be said of many rural areas in the North and the Bekaa.

Having said that, these communities could've done a lot for themselves, instead of following a culture of war and destruction that only made them even MORE deprived. They could've focused on bettering their communities, with all the money they got from Iran and from the diaspora, they could've peacefully improved their own lot, while having their representatives in government and in the parliament, work towards improving their lives, and changing the way the central government treated them. That's what good representatives do.

Instead, they chose a different path. They chose to back a group of Charlatans (Nassrallah, Berri, and co.) who still deprived them by keeping them poor and oppressed (and siphoning off the money to build themselves palaces, and buy rockets to fire at Israel).

So, yea, spare me the "Mahroumine" refrain. It's gotten very old.

[danny]

BV,

Dr. Samir geagea

[Meghwar]

BV = Bad Vilbel
DSG = Dr. Samir Geagea
:)

E,
No sweat man.

[Bad Vilbel]

Ah. Thanks.

[Hazbani]

Please leave LOL or Romeo on the blog. As sad as it may be to some body he is speaking for about half of the people of Lebanon, I think I do not know. Any war will kill and destroy much, both in Israel and in Lebanon. I know that many people in Lebanon would like to hurt Israel, as LOL-Romero does but do they think about Lebanon?. As an Israeli I do not think that there is a reason for a war between Israel and Lebanon, or that a war will solve any this or that thing, or that the Hizb. is able to destroy the Israeli Army. The UN marked the Is-Leb border to the last Shiber and not one grain of lebanese soil is held by Israel, once the Syrian Lebanese border is marked the same will be done in the Sheba area. I do know that after the last war the economy of Israel is doing very well the $ is down so is unemployment etc. the situation in Lebanon is known to you. The hero that can not do a thing to the economy of Haifa, Nazaret and Tel-Aviv is showing his hand in Bairut. I also know, contrary to what Nasralla said, that between 1950 and 1970 the border between Israel and Lebanon was peaceful. Compare the economic and the cultural situation of Lebanon and Jordan now and then, or for that matter even many countries in Asia and South America. Do people in Egypt and Jordan Love Israel? NO, but the responsible ones do love their countries and wars is hell and modern wars are even bigger hell.

[danny]

Hazbani,

You have to understand that HA does not represent most Lebanese. Most Shiites follow it under duress. HA along with the help of Syria had "barred" the Lebanese Government from functioning in the areas that were under the control of HA. Thus HA, with their "clean" money and Lebanese treasury's $$s helped the common folks with social and financial as well as their day to day issues. Now you see the situation. They are blaming the Government for not helping, while they were the ones who did not allow it to elevate their stature.

In a free country, without the threat of guns, things would be different! HA raison d'aitre is not building of a Lebanese nation, but the ummah(villayet el faqih).
How do you reason with an organization that would lose its base once it lays down its arms...

Most people of Lebanon want to live a regular life just like you in Israel, however, they are caught in this black hole...a vortex that does not seem to have a clear exit!!

One last thing. Idiotic Morons like LOL/Romeo do not speak for anyone in Lebanon. They are regirgitating the shit that has been fed to them by the faqih..They are in a "Trans".

One more time romeo BUZZ OFF

[AK]

please ignore all comments by "lol" and his variants. Thanks.

[Bad Vilbel]

Hazbani,

I doubt that the opinions of you-know-who are representative of 50% of the Lebanese population.

Sure, there's a lot of idiocy going around in Lebanon, but this specific brand of idiocy is even beyond the pale.

[Don Cox]

More crap about "pride", "honor", and "dignity". These words are the curse of the Middle East, and I suspect have been for thousands of years. (If so that would explain the "Sermon on the Mount" attributed to Jesus.)

What people need are jobs, food, housing, sewage treatment, clean water, technical education, and health services - not pride and honour.

[Meghwar]

Guys,
have you heard the latest ??? "Saniora Wants Lebanon Informed of Syria's Investigation into the Mughniyeh Killing" !!! Needless to say that he is serious....
Ok let him dream on ...

This jellyfish should Declare syria the enemy of Lebanon and let's get over with it ...el 3ama !

The Hajjana killed a 13 Years old Boy a coupla days ago ... and last year an army soldier in Beqaa and a Topographer.. They Landed in the Island of Araneb or Nakheel facing tripoli with their choppers one month ago ( and fired on fishermen in North so many times that I lost count ) to cut the story short, they are copying exactly the "AGGRESSIVE, VIOLENT ISRAELI ATTACKS ON LEBANON" as per Hazzin and "TRESPASSING OUR MARTIME AND AIR SPACE", so where is the Moukawama ya Hazzine ???

A friend of mine told me the airport road (old and new) looks as if you are in Iran!!! disgusting. All the ugly posters showing Mughniyeh's terrorist head on a yellow background...even worse, all TV screens in the airport lounges and gate lounges were showing hazzin’s speech ... Any tourist coming to Lebanon would shit in his pants on the way out of the airport,( if he decide to stay ) with all the bearded “men” on the posters !! He Was there this week and said it totally sucked!! was even advised not to go in the summer so much the situation is tense and everyone's just waiting for who will throw the first punch. Yesterday he told me when hazzin spoke bullets rained on his parent's roof and the entire area... Their arrogance and bullying has no limits. (the same goes for any moron who shoots guns in the air regardless who they support), but to hear siniora blabbering his idiocies after all of this is simply unbelievable !

Yet there is worse ..as per future TV....

This siniorita is saying that "if there is a new war with Israel the lebanese will face it unified whatever their differences are..." mastoul hayda?!!!!
GIVE ME A F.....BREAK !!!!! Enough kissing asses !

Mr. “politically correct” wants to take all that crap, let him do it all by himself, what’s worse? His lame speeches and statements, which obviously make us all go WTF are being interpreted by those clowns as signs of weakness and not of conscientiousness!! Am fed up with all of this crap, speeches and idiocies and I want him to spill his guts out for once, and do something about those outlaws and their stooges in Lebanon, for instance how about ending the circus of tent city ??? Elect a president by majority + 1 And come what may....Enough BS already !

Mr. SANIORA GROW SOME BALLS AND START CHOPPING OFF HEADS ! Enough is enough !

[Bad Vilbel]

Meghwar, I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

[Ex-Aounist]

Meghwar hit the nail on the head, couldn't agree more !

"This siniorita is saying that "if there is a new war with Israel the lebanese will face it unified whatever their differences are..." mastoul hayda?!!!!

Aktar mn Mastoul, He can dream of it, I swear to god if I see any refugee coming into my area I will shoot them on sight, they accuse us of being TRAITORS and ZIONISTS,after all that we have done to them, we will PROVE THEM RIGHT THIS TIME...ungrateful ingrates SOB!

Also

How about Threatening Syria that if they ever attack us again Lebanese Gov. will take same measures in the UN just like against any ISRAELI agression ???? And Let them close the border, we can have a peace treatee with israelis and F...Syria and HIZB...let them try to do start a civil war...we will see what will happen!

Why doesn't he do it ???? This ....

[Andre]

I somewhat agree that the majority of shiites do not want to endure another war for the sake of Nasrallah's desperate tantrums. This is a sign that were it not for HA's charity and social services thae movement would not have as much support as it had in the past. What's even more hillarious, is Nasrallah's "competitive" challenge. Of course we all know about the lode of buses coming across the border to add to the existing numbers. In any case, HA is no longer a party that people are in awe of, rather they have just become another party to the ongoing conflict and that makes Nasrallah another war lord like the others and nothing more. Gone are the days that followed the "divine" liberation of the south and the catapulting of HA to their status as divine martyrs and standing heroes. "Khalas" is an appropriate call to Nasrallah and his cronies.

[danny]

Somehow I will disagree regarding Seniorita's comments...I think it is perfect for Lebanese government to act like one as one of its nationals was killed! I am certain Syria will not respond, which is ok as well. IT JUST PISSES HA OFF!!!

As for the border shootings, I really do not know much about them to comment objectively...

Trust me having this jelly weasel as PM pissing them off with his quiet and nonsensical crap is a gem. They would not like anything but a hot head freaking out all the time!

The reason Seniorita made these comments and the 'tour" is to exemplify the difference on what a statesman can look like and what a common hoodlum(hassooun) would look like.

I honestly think that the "old charismatic one" has lost his cool and mischief! That's what happens when people do not buy into your sermon blindly and actually call him a butcher and a murderer. To me Hassoun looks neutered and constipated...They should blast the A/C in his speechmaking hole....Too much sweating and his eyesight is getting worse...

[Solomon2]

"To me Hassoun looks neutered and constipated."

I spoke to one analyst who described Nasty's speech as "hysterical".

In my own thinking, Mughniyeh was the "real" leader of Hezbollah; Nasty was just his mouthpiece. I never heard or read any report of Nasrallah hearing a report from an underling and giving orders in response. Nasrallah's response can then be explained as a barely-suppressed fear that without Muggy, Nasrallah may soon be expendable. How much longer before Hassoun Nasrallah is more valuable as a martyr than as a leader?

[Ex-Aounist]

Danny,
The thing being those asshole are taking siniora's calm stances and quiet for weakness and they are not getting the message ya habibeh ya danny!!

On the other hand The int'l community do not need saniora to know the difference between a statesman and a terrorist!!

This hassoun cannot be stopped by other means than similar to his own...let him taste his own medicine for once ...let the Lebanese Gov RULE and apply the law...enough!

It is not a game, this asshole madman hassoun is ready to bring destruction upon the country for the sake of a rotten terrorist and the satanic eyes of khamenei in the meantime Siniorita is exemplifying the statesman?? Ok then why not exemplify also how one rule and apply the laws and Constitution on all Lebanese as a PM ????

So Let him shove his exemplifying up hassouna's ass first and foremost! Maybe just maybe this latter retard would learn to live by the LEBANESE laws and find out that warlords and militias' era are over !

[Meghwar]

"Nasrallah may soon be expendable."

Everyone is expendable.

[danny]

I hope all you say is as easy as that! Anyway, we'll have this drag another year...
Seniorita is nothing but a mouthpiece...If there's any action is to be taken Maarch 14 has to give the green light. However, don't hold your breath...Not until IT is operational, and apparently that is not happening for another year as per US ambassador to UN...

[Meghwar]

Danny,

What you wrote might have worked in different circumstances ...right now ...we cannot afford the luxury of such Mr. Cool (without Aid) inert lame attitude!

Moreover, he was acting same during the "tawlet el hiwar" was he not ?? and what we woke up to ?? July war, thanks but no thanks!

Everything you see and hear is camouflage.
The real issue is the International Tribunal.

1-Can the Syrian Regime hold on to power after being directly implicated in all the assassinations?

2-Has HA provided the logistics and thus implicated in the assassinations?
3-If not; what will the fate of HA be after the downfall of the Syrian Regime? or at least its weakening ?
4-Can Iran afford to lose Syria and its enormous investment in HA as a consequence?

Hassoun speeches are evidently groundwork for a war to be ignited under the pretext of avenging Magnehyah. The time of ignition will of course coincide with the start of or during the International Tribunal.

HA has two options at its disposal, a war with Israel which hassoun is establishing with his speeches, or a civil war in Lebanon which HA is laying the grounds for with the continuous street conflicts.
In both cases Lebanon and its wretched people lose out.
Nassralla is blinded by anger. He knows that his so-called allies played a role in killing his second in command. Yet he cannot do anything about it. So, now he is taking out his frustration on whomever available. He has already fell for the trap. A trap set by his so-called allies.( Syrians would be served by any kind of war in lebanon ) He is going to act out of anger. An action that will lead to self-destruction. Unfortunately, he is about to sacrifice many innocent Lebanese lives in the process. The only silver lining is that Lebanon was before Hizb and will remain after hizb is gone.

Hassin is threatening overtly of war...we need a straightjacket, leash and blinkers for this Miserable war-coholic ASAP !

PS. My apologies in advance for the long post.

[Min Canada]

As much as Seniora sounds frustrating to you, he is so much more fustrating to them believe me.

[Proud Lebanese!]

After reading all the comments on this blog I feel ashamed at the amount of hipocracy and stupidity around! read between the lines...if you are trully proud of Lebanon and want this country "independant and Democratic" then the first of your concern would be the Sovereignty of one true Lebanon! I love my country and will do anything by all means to stand up for it. i was never a person into politics because i assumed it was a waste of time, i classified all politicians a bunch of thieves and bullies (they still are) that took everything away from their people and only begged for money abroad humiliating us infront of the nations of the world to feed their bank accounts and their corrupt families that are privelleged over millions of low class poor people of all backgrounds and religions in Lebanon (1 example Seniora). When i say im Lebanese and proud i think about what our country has given to the rest of the world education wise, science wise cultural etc.. others nowadays hide behind that saying and stick their desired leaders or religious backgrounds. i have read into many things for the past years from history sources up until whats happening now, i hate bias racisim and always believe in what i think makes sense and is logically correct. during the war of 2006 i went to Lebanon with my family and witnessed the war experience with my own two eyes... with respect to some people blogging here there are some idiots that think they are funny and amusing dissing and insulting Sayed Hassan when they dont even know half they story! we were living in the worst conditions any human would ever live under the shelling and bombings of an act of the so called "holocaust" victims, it kinda made me question the authenticity of it all after what my family went through Ann Frank was better off than us. if this was a natural disaster fair enough, but these nazis dropped bombs with no humanity or mercy for anyone killing innocent defenceless civillians. with their advanced technology i am pretty sure they know how to tell the difference from a child and a soldier via their american donated killer machines!!! if anyone wanted to express their hate for hizbollah its not you it would be me but on the other hand sorry to disappoint the 14th March (traitors)i respect and back hizbollah 10000% percent! i am proud that we had patriots who defended and brought pride to the Lebanese people who deserved it after being the West's doormat for so long. we were undermined and had our independance stripped at every opportunity we got back on our feet. unfortunately some people couldnt care less they were partying, sunbathing and clubbing their asses off while the other part of the country was under seige. Imagine your family had to result to so much pain, imagine yourself living in so much fear that you had to pray a zillion times a day for the MKs and fighter jets to leave the sky above your house..i just wish people would realise and feel with eachother rather than point blame. Sayed Hassan never expected such retaliation the whole purpose of the capture of the 2 soldiers was to exchange them for the release of Lebanese prisoners shias,sunnis,druze and christians who were hostaged for over 20 years. Did anyone comprehend that???? How come a MUSLIM leader took so much interest in the Christian detainees and none of the christians in lebanon cared less about theyre whereabouts?? tells you something about who loves their country more doesnt it? i think he deserves some respect and praise afterall if it wasnt for him the south of Lebanon would still be occupied but no one cares much about that coz they dont live there or they dont share the same religion i guess!? what a shame though if you call yourself lebanese you would care about every single citizen living there and every inch of land snatched away by occupiers who dont deserve crap.the opposition aoun nasrallah make alot of sense to me because they represent a true lebanon, nassrallah does not want and no one would accept an Islamic lebanon coz Lebanon is unique for its diverese religious population and traditions. people claiming that is his intent are wrong and misinformed. Aoun is a true patriotic Christian who sees just for the cristians before you diss and say irrelevent things i suggest you balance your information and listen to other point of views coz i did the same and found out the truth. i found that the opposition did not stray side to side with their views and were responsible for everything they said, 14th march i just couldnt understand, jumblatt was just a complete nutcase who took a dose or two went to bed with one opinion and woke up with another, samir geagea was a criminal and still is he murdered christians and blew up holy churches for godsake how can we trust him to be in the gov!!, seniora needs to be kicked out ASAP coz hes pathetic! and as for saad hariri hes a saudi puppet(hence the trade marked saudi goatie) who wasnt even raised in lebanon to start with other than that he cant speak to save his life without reading from scripts and even they are read incorrectly.

Wake up people!!! we want real Lebanese people for Lebanon, not custom made ones they are before our eyes but we fail to see them...

[Solomon2]

Oops! I now read in the Now Lebanon article that Nasrallah admits that Mughniyeh was the real leader of Hezbollah during the 2006 war. It must have been a profoundly satisfying moment for Mughniyeh, knowing that he had successfully suckered the nation that abused his people into a war and to follow his secret leadership!

The next natural step for him, after the war ended, would be to foment armed Palestinian resistance to the Lebanese state directly - which is exactly what happened, isn't it? So many things explained...

[fubar]

Well, there you have it, "Proud Lebanese!" is a real voice from the opposition's useful idiots.

“im Lebanese and proud i think about what our country has given to the rest of the world education wise, science wise cultural etc..”

Hmmm, you are proud of what your ancestors have given to the rest of the world - education, science, culture. Hmmm....Me, I am not Lebanese so I certainly have no personal knowledge of your feelings of pride for these things you had nothing to do with; and not to belittle the achievements of your ancestors, but... what have you done, except being born, to claim the accomplishments of others as if they were your own? Have you lived up to the promise that was once Lebanon?

“with respect to some people blogging here there are some idiots that think they are funny and amusing dissing and insulting Sayed Hassan when they dont even know half they story!”

Hmmm... you know Nasrallah personally, do you? You have weekly or monthly chats with him? You know the full story, everything Nasrallah has planned for Lebanon? Do not taunt us, do tell.

“during the war of 2006 i went to Lebanon with my family and witnessed the war experience with my own two eyes...

Must have been before the air blockade, huh? Or maybe you went into Lebanon from Syria?
Why is it that I do not believe you when you say that you “witnessed the war experience”. I mean really, the war experience? Who says that? I don’t know anyone who has been in a war who calls it “the war experience.” How emotionally detached from a WAR do you have to be to call it “the war experience”?

“we were living in the worst conditions any human would ever live under the shelling and bombings of an act of the so called "holocaust" victims, it kinda made me question the authenticity of it all after what my family went through Ann Frank was better off than us.”

Really? Anne Frank was better off than your family? That is not even funny! If you witnessed “the war experience”, it lasted 33 days. Anne Frank and her family were in hiding for two years and, after their arrest, Anne Frank spent seven months at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp before she died there, just days after her sister had also died at the concentration camp. Anne Frank died. You did not. And, you have the gall to compare your “war experience” with that of someone who did not even survive their WAR and to claim that she was better of than you. PARDON ME, but even the Guild of Village Idiots would be appalled by the irrationality of your comment.

“these nazis dropped bombs with no humanity or mercy for anyone killing innocent defenceless civillians. with their advanced technology i am pretty sure they know how to tell the difference from a child and a soldier via their american donated killer machines!!!”

Calling Israelis nazis is an insult rooted in racism. So much for your comment, “i hate bias racisim.” Guess you only hate racism when it is directed against you and yours, not those nasty Jews. And then, it is okay to you that Nasrallah started the war and fired Katyushas indescriminately into Israel, killing and wounding Jewish and Arab Israelis alike. That is okay with you. It is just the nazi Israelis that must distinguish between Hezbollah and civilians even when Hezbollah hides behind and among civilians.

“nassrallah does not want and no one would accept an Islamic lebanon”
“people claiming that is his intent are wrong and misinformed.”

Really, again, because you know him so well. And you have studied the situation and come to your own logical conclusion. You know, in Iran, in 1978 and 1979, there were many people just like you. They were pretty much killed or imprisoned in the years that followed the Islamic Revolution, after they had served their purpose. Let us all hope that your "Hezbollah experience" does not end the same way. Hezb faghat Hezbollah, rahbar faghat Rouhollah. You might want to memorize that, you may need it to prove your bona fides someday soon.

/AK, your blog is going to hell.

[Bad Vilbel]

Uhm. What exactly have the Lebanese given to the world in the past 60+ years? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

No, I take that back. We've given the world and the neighboring countries a fertile ground for furthering their agendas through war and destruction. We have given the world a generation or two of complete idiots who beat their heads, chant idiotic slogans, anytime any two bit soothsayer points them towards a shiny object. We have given the world a true example of how NOT to be build a democratic and free state. We have made places like Bosnia look like beacons of enlightenment by comparison. We have given the world a cesspool in which everyone can dump their terrorists and feces and weapons, and we gladly take it all and ask for more.

Spare me the holier than thou attitude, proud Lebanese.

All the "proud" ones are the ones worshiping false idols, war and destruction. While the actual "civilized Lebanese" have gotten the fuck out of dodge, emigrated, and taken their contributions to science, education and culture, to places that actually appreciate them.

What a joke!

[Proud Lebanese!]

LOL fubar, as you are not Lebanese, ofcourse you would know nothing of the pride and patriotism i have, Hmmm i wonder where your're from???.... dont come and hurl your unworthy views at me seeming your not Lebanese and probably by the sounds of it know NOTHING politically associated to the country, you WOULD base your childish questions and proclaim them wise in defence to my comments. anyhow in reply to your pathetic remarks; i dont have to have lived with Sayed Hassan to understand the man, i mean just because ur puppeted into believing he's a terrorist and so on.. i think i am quite individual and free to form an understanding of the points he makes and the judgments he proposes. And sorry to dissapoint you but YES we have a country that has ancestors who made a difference to the world obviously im not gonna educate you but i suggest you go and surf the net for some information....

Fubar WHAT HAVE YOU OR YOUR UNKNOWN COUNTRY DONE???? LOL god you sound like a 5 year old with these questions;
"what have you done, except being born, to claim the accomplishments of others as if they were your own? Have you lived up to the promise that was once Lebanon?" What promise you idiot?

As for your comments on the 2006 war YES i call it "War experience" coz ive only ever saw a WAR on tv! i don't know about you... obviously there you go again DENYING and disrespecting my beliefs and what i personally went through, i mean just who do you think you are?? i should have put you in my grandmothers celler during the raids just for one night and ill be more than happy to hear you talk after that!

"Really? Anne Frank was better off than your family? That is not even funny! If you witnessed “the war experience”, it lasted 33 days. Anne Frank and her family were in hiding for two years and, after their arrest, Anne Frank spent seven months at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp before she died there, just days after her sister had also died at the concentration camp. Anne Frank died. You did not. And, you have the gall to compare your “war experience” with that of someone who did not even survive their WAR and to claim that she was better of than you. PARDON ME, but even the Guild of Village Idiots would be appalled by the irrationality of your comment."

Funny how you focus and put so much effort on the things i sound "irrational" on... and, i didnt ask you to re-read the story of ann frank i have read it myself.anyway you must be very thick indeed to 33 days of my life spent in hiding each day felt like a year to us, ann frank was hiding away from soldiers, we were hiding away BUT expecting our death every single day as the fighter jets hovered above our house every night and expected to die like all the other innocent civilians and blameless children who were hunted down and attacked like birds from the sky mercilessly under their own roofs or on the roads fleeing to a safer place to hide with "white flags" hanging from their cars, but still died as a result of the cold bloodedness of the corrupt israeli army.

fubar i can compare myself and family to whoever i please, i suffered this u didnt!, have you lived with ann frank and her family???? No so dont put words you dont know the taste of in your mouth.

"Calling Israelis nazis is an insult rooted in racism. So much for your comment, “i hate bias racisim.” Guess you only hate racism when it is directed against you and yours, not those nasty Jews. And then, it is okay to you that Nasrallah started the war and fired Katyushas indescriminately into Israel, killing and wounding Jewish and Arab Israelis alike. That is okay with you. It is just the nazi Israelis that must distinguish between Hezbollah and civilians even when Hezbollah hides behind and among civilians".

Fine call me a racist i hate israelis and will never ever forgive them for the torture brutality they have committed to soo many lebanese and palestinians over the years. they ARE nazis because they executed the SAME ideologies as them, and it seems like they praise hitler coz he they are repeating his brutal history! when i said israelis it doesnt mean all the jews in the world, just so you dont emphasize on what im saying and start picking weak criticisms. i have jewish friends myslef and they are NOTHING like these zionists in israel, infact they even disown the country saying they are illegal occupiers and "animals" as one friend put it.

for your information the people that have died in lebanon and the people still dying in palestine are not even comparable to how many israelis died. dont start putting israeli arabs in the context of your arguement to balance your inappropriate judgment coz it doesnt work. for 2 israeli soldiers countless children were slaughtered and were blown to pieces majority under the age of 5 years of age! i didnt hear any children die in israel seems as your comparing!???

and for the silly bad vibel, Lebanon was the land that gave the world freakin alphabets to start with, that to word your stupid comments. Lebanon has suffered alot but ask yourself when did that start??? isnt it when the occupiers stripped palestine of the palestinians and moved into the middle east? we had so much hope, but obviously the west dumped them in the MIDDLE EAST because they have long planned the benefits in all of it.. not to mention the ease of bombing the arabs and stealing their oil and other natural resources to support themselves with, long before lebanon took in palestinians, they gave armenians homes when they were homeless and up until now they still live together in peace.. the proud lebanese are in lebanon and abroad representing their country (bad vilbel!), you are very naive and stupid to say;

"All the "proud" ones are the ones worshiping false idols, war and destruction. While the actual "civilized Lebanese" have gotten the fuck out of dodge, emigrated, and taken their contributions to science, education and culture, to places that actually appreciate them".

i mean get a grip of yourself there is nothing to say about your immature comment! foool!!!

[JoseyWales]

Proud moron et al,

The backward people/culture who have nothing to contribute today talk up the accomplishments the ancestors.

AK, fubar is right (and thanks for taking the time for the point-by-point fub), this blog is going to hell

Please please please AK: keep the banned banned and police irrational comments devoid of arguments. (Sorry, but your blog is one of the better one's AK and I don't mean to tell you how to run it)

We all know Churchill, DeGaulle, Reagan and Thatcher. Saniora is fooling no one with his stupid "statesman" act. Statesmen got RESULTS and changed their country's course.

Finally Danny, I still don't get the we-have-to-wait part: for the IT, the summit, the US election, etc...We've been doing that forever, it does NOT work.

[Proud Lebanese!]

Josey, you sound as though you live on an island, go update woman. and how dare you call me a moron, if you want to debate with me, say something worthy dont knock on the door and run and hide, silly woman. anyway dont hate and ask for me to be removed from the blog, because i am entitled to my opinion as you are. Am i that much of a threat to you??

[JoseyWales]

"Am i that much of a threat to you??"

Frankly me dear, NO.

You are however a total waste of my time.

Of course, you are entitled to your stupid opinions, and I am entitled to not argue with people who have no logic and are all emotion and name-calling.

[Bad Vilbel]

Proud Lebanese, you're entitled to your opinion. I disagree with it. I asked what the Lebanese had contributed to the world in the past 50 years. The alphabet was a long time before that. Time to stop regurgitating the exploits of our ancestors, as Josey said. Time to start offering something to the world from our own generation.

I stand by my point. Who cares about 5000 years ago. In the past half-century, all the smart Lebanese who had something productive to offer to the world have done so abroad, in surroundings that appreciated those contributions and encouraged them. While back home, only war and hatred is encouraged.

You want to go on sitting in the crapper while reminescing about 5000 years ago, knock yourself out. But don't complain about the smell unless YOU are willing to do something about it. Not your ancestors. YOU and YOUR generation. Living off past glories is one of the most pathetic ways of life. Like the alcoholic, drug addicted offspring of a celebrity, homeless and pennyless, all the while remembering the day their grandparent had a hit song back in the 1950s.

[danny]

Josey, I am not saying we have to wait till US elections, or any other arbitrary date or event. However, my rationale has been , from day one that instead of giving in to these March 8 morons, March 14th plan has been maintaining status quo. They have total control of the cabinet decisions...Again, until IT is operational, I think they (most likely UN/USA/EU as well) fear there are certain decisions that a cabinet can hinder or delay....

Otherwise you know I never waivered from my 50+1 from day one! I thought calling their bluff was the right choice. However, as I said the IT issue seems to overide all. That's why I think we're in for a prolonged vacuum!!!

On a lighter note...Lebanese have contributed the best plastic surgeons to the world!!

[Rami]

I am a regular reader of this blog, always struck by new arguments and perspectives, but today I got a true LAUGH from "Proud Lebanese." Thanks for comical relief! Although I must say that I begin to get somewhat LESS proud (even verging on embarrassment)of being Lebanese, when a fellow compatriot (who likely lives abroad and comes to Lebanon for "war experience" training) are making these silly statments- and are SERIOUS. But still, hilarious.